Archive for Fire Questions – Page 2

Dealing With Your Cop Friends

Oh boy, I know this is something that all of us deal with. The sender isn’t kidding that she would like some advice, however, the only advice I’m going to be able to give is what I would do in her situation.  That won’t work for everyone because all our personalities are different, but with how many different women we have here I’m sure there will be other options thrown her way.

Q: this is something that bothers me… im a 911 dispatcher and my husband is a firefighter, we live in (blank) and everything we know is just about on fire including most of the property around our farm… heres what bothers me, when our law officers have the nerve to talk about how lazy our firemen are. Really? while there sitting around drinking their coffee and talking to me, my husband and his coworkers are working their butts off at any given time of day.

we just welcomed our first child recently, my husband returned to work 3 weeks later and has not had one day off since, aside from working his regular 24 at the fd he spends both of his days off, on scene at the fires until 10 or 11 each night. that doesnt sound lazy to me.  when i voice my opinion everyone thinks im only saying that because im a fire wife. id like to know how to say whats on my mind (and whats true for that matter) without sounding biased.

A: I altered dates and locations so there is no finger pointing through either of their jobs.

Be aware that you are postpartum.  Since it hasn’t been very long since having the baby, please look at the fact that you WILL be more hormonal for many months as your body tries to go back to normal. I say this because things people say right now may bother you much more than they previously would.  Before you may have just laughed and joked it off, but right now it feels hurtful.

Having worked and played sports all my life with guys, I know to dish it as much as they do.  I have dispatch friends (for the cops) and a few cop friends as well. SOP for me is to always ask them why they are still so angry about not passing the fire test ;)  Cause we know all cops first wanted to be firefighters. roflmbo  That usually gets them to shut up for a few minutes or at least lightens the mood.

How sarcastic you can be at work will depend on the relationship you have with your colleagues and bosses.

Want to be a little sarcastic and factual? Ask them how many hours they worked last month.  Make sure you have the amount figured out in your head that you can pop back with. I don’t know very many departments that only work 160 hours a month like those working 9-5.  Then we also add in OT, special teams and extra drills on top of those 190+ hours.

As you can see, we’ll definitely have to get some more advice from others.  I’m sure there are other ways to handle the situation and I ask you ladies to jump in with your perspective.

Pro’s and Con’s of Being a FireWife

I actually wanted to title it Con’s and Pro’s, but that just wasn’t rolling off the tongue when I tried to say it.  I know I won’t be able to come up with near as many con’s so I’m going to start with that list first.

I had a visitor on the fanpage that had a lot of questions. She’s not a firewife yet, but her husband has been talking a lot about it.  It was wonderful because it’s led to my throwing no less than 6 ideas into draft here for later blogging! WOOHOO inspiration is sweet. Oh, it also got me started thinking about a niche site, but that is a whole other topic and I’m trying to curb that “start another site” beast. No no no, bad Val for the thought.

I’m going to be smart and not even pretend that I’ll keep this short, sweet or stay-to-the-point.  I just have a feeling it may be impossible so I won’t start off with a lie.

Con’s of being a firefighter’s wife:

  1. Last minute OT.
  2. Going to sports games and other family events without him.
  3. Eating alone some nights.
  4. Sleeping alone some nights.
  5. He may not be home after the kids great day, game, or dance to hear the details immediately.
  6. It’s truly high school, he-said-she-said crap at times.
  7. Everything breaking, falling apart or people trying to break in ONLY when they are working.
  8. You will listen to everything fire 24/7 at all events, fire related or not. Even when at our parents houses it turns to fire, EVEN MY PARENTS HOUSE. My brother is now (as of 3 weeks ago) fire at the prison. Hmm, was I meant to be a firewife or what?

Pro’s of being a firefighter’s wife:

  1. Last minute OT. Pays for so much fun and I rarely have stuff I can’t rearrange or go without him.
  2. Sometimes he gets out of going to family things we’d prefer not to go to lol
  3. Some nights I don’t have to care at all about food and we eat a lot of leftovers.
  4. Some nights I get the WHOLE Cali-King to myself :)
  5. When the kids are in school we get to go on lunch dates (so much cheaper)
  6. We get to shop during the week when it’s just us and the retirees.
  7. I gained a family I didn’t know I had even been missing.
  8. Some nights I get to let my insomnia run rampant and I stay up super late.
  9. I get to watch whatever I want at least 8 days a month.
  10. I can cry watching chick flicks and not be laughed at or asked if I’m ok!
  11. I now have a bunco group that meets once a month.
  12. I can buy cute firefighter wife shirts.
  13. We can schedule many fun events during his 4days with no extra time taken off.
  14. It’s allowing me to stay home. OR forcing me to make home biz work so I can stay home for the kids. Win either way.
  15. We can bid for special events off well in advance.
  16. We can plan our years’ vacations and major parties by November for the following year since we’ll have our list of days off.
  17. He LOVES his job.

I may very well end up adding to this list, but the most important thing is he truly loves his job.  Which right now is a must because he’s rarely getting sleep at the station it’s been so busy.

Sure, I can come up with more negatives but really it’s nothing that I think should deter from just how perfect being a firefighter wife is.  I wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s what he’s always wanted to be, what he’s always needed to be and it makes him happy even after the shitty days. After 21 years, I’ve been there on shitty days.

Fundraising Ideas

This is always a good question to brainstorm, but never more necessary than this time in history. Many departments are actually fundraising just to keep services. This question came to me with a big backstory of how an elected city official blamed his inconvenience on a boot drive and now the city won’t allow them. Even though it had nothing to do with the boot drive and anyone in town knows that. There was a history written up of how their FD is of course having some other issues as many towns are that their services don’t seem to be necessary enough for full funding. But that’s another story ;)

Q: One particular sunny afternoon, a town selectman who has a “slight” distaste for our local FD, got stuck in traffic on his way home from work. As he approached one intersection he found 2 or 3 guys out there working the Boot Drive, walking up and down the line as people were waiting at a red light. He accredited the traffic to the Boot Drive and has said never again will this town host a Boot Drive. The money they have raised in the past has gone to local families that have been affected by a house fire, burn victims being treated at MGH in Boston, cancer research, as well as the general up keep and financial load that their fire house and FF’s carry. I was never so upset about anything in my life. All because one man was inconvenienced one day out of his life, all that good that these guys have done for so many people can’t happen. They’ve done other fundraisers but are quickly running out of ideas and none have been as successful as the Boot Drive has been. Have you or your firefighter ever experienced anything like this before? Any ideas on fundraising?

A: Well we all know that the boot drives raise a ton of money. Money that keeps many charities funded. Let alone if this was also being used to fund actual FD services! I don’t think people understand that some community education programs are run by funds that are NOT tax dollars, but grants and fundraising efforts.

With that said I’m going to just toss out a bunch of fundraising ideas here.

  • chili or bbq cook-off (invite neighboring FF’s to enter for a fee) Of course you must sell the chili or bbq to the crowd ;)
  • calendars
  • community kids fair
  • shirts, sweatshirts, gear that say I support (dept name)
  • pancake breakfast (our dept has a lot of success with this as it’s been going on for years before a big parade)
  • food booth at any local fair or farmers market
  • if you have a community safety fair, get it monetized. Ask businesses both local and national for donations of hot dogs, pop, water, etc and then sell them for a low cost. Add a booth or two that are fun but require a donation to participate. Nothing wrong with a good old bake sale booth as well ;)
  • bingo
  • raffles (check your state gambling regs, WA is VERY STRICT)
  • dances and benefit dinner – especially if you can get a chef to cater
  • become the waitstaff at a local restaurant for a few hours or the day. Tips go to dept and some restaurants also throw in a percentage of sales
  • golf tournament
  • poker run with horses, atv, bikes whatever the craze in your area is
  • fire vs cop sporting event
  • spaghetti dinner and auction

Ok, that should get the ideas flowing. What works great for your department fundraisers?

What Are Debt Days?

This is my question to everyone out there, seriously, what are debt days?

It didn’t sound like they were anything like comp time so  it confused me completely.  Plus, I think I was trying to get an explanation on twitter so that’s 140 characters or less.  Not easy.
Can you help inform me how this works?

Does FF Worry About Your Stress?

I’ve had a little email conversation with a firefighters girlfriend and she posed an interesting discussion.  Since we run with mostly married folks or couples that have been together a while I didn’t even think of the guys worrying about how their SO (significant other) is able to handle the stress of their work.  But it was brought to my attention that it could be a worry.

A little background, the two of them are in different states and I’m a geography idiot so I can’t tell you without running off to google how long that distance could be.  I don’t know their towns anyway. lol

QuestionI’ve been dating a firefighter captain and it’s a whole new world, things I need to get used to and understand.  We want to make this permanent but he’s so afraid that I won’t be able to handle the stress. Talking with other girlfriends/wives is what I need to figure all this out. I hope you can help with this – thanks! T

 

Answer: Ok, so the above isn’t technically a question but it still is a call for asking advice.  Since the beginning of the emails were about looking for support.

I’m wondering if he has grounds for thinking she can’t handle the stress.  From a second email, I’m wondering if this question comes up because she does worry a lot.  If things are bothering her a lot already and she hasn’t moved closer to his work yet I could see that his concern is it will get worse when she moves.  Since there were quite a few unknowns and always will be, I’ll go with what I have.

I always suggest getting together with locals.  We can chat all we want online but it’s never going to be the same as having a one-on-one girlfriend discussion and laughs.  Getting together with some other couples will help with the mindset that you aren’t doing this all alone.  It’s probably rough because if you don’t live close to each other then you want to spend time alone when a date night actually happens.  But believe me, you’ll be happier after spending some time with others in the department that he wants to introduce you to.  Even if it’s just a lunch get-together and then you can have the evening free for your own date.

Think of what is worrying you the most?  If I was living a distance away I think my worry would end up being if something happens, would I be notified and how quickly can I get there.  Look at your list of fears and it may help you have a better discussion with him about it.

If things are worrying you then it’s good to discuss it all, but also look at if this is the only topic of discussion when you are together.  If that’s the case then you can imagine why he’s worried you can’t take the stress.

It can’t take over your every thought.  They have enough horribleness to deal with every day.  If they have to constantly ease your fears it just adds more work to that.  I feel we are here to remind them that life is normal and bring that normal to fruition.  Of course, everyone’s normal is different ;)

Was your guy worried about how you would handle the stress of being a firefighter wife?

Scheduling Disagreements

I’m a little behind on questions that have been sent to me.  Forgive me ladies if you have sent them in, I know they were important enough for you to send them to me.

This question is definitely one we all battle with.  The last minute calls that take them away and how to deal with feeling second.

Question: Thanks for this website, it has great insight! My boyfriend is a firefighter and I truly love him and support him in any way, we have been together for 1.5 years. I admitt that I have blown up in two occassions when we are supposed to see each other and he gets called in to work and we aren’t able to meet. I have apologized and let him know that I do support him, this last time I aplogized right away and the relationship does not seem the same. I don’t want to overwhelm him and have given him some space. We have talked about getting married, I went on a two week trip and we said that when I got back we would speed things up and begin the planning. Of course I would love to spend the rest of my life with him, I want to let him know that I support him and the disagreements we have had about his schedule are somewhat “normal” (from what I read) and its not something that will detotoriate our relationship. Any input?

Thanks, D

 

Answer: As always, I’m going to start this off by saying how key communication is. If you have felt a shift since that last blowup then it would be a good idea to ask him about it.

On those days that it really bothers you that he can’t make it to see you, look at how your day went.  It’s a safe bet that you were having a rough day and felt the need to see him to make it better.  Instead this was the straw that broke the camels back on your emotions at the end of the day.  That can be completely normal.

I am unsure how often this happens to you because all the departments are so different in how calls come in.  Also it wasn’t said if he’s on a paid department or volunteer and that can make a big difference in your feelings as well.

I know when my husband was a volunteer we did set different times that he couldn’t go on calls.  It wasn’t often but it was necessary.  A date here and there during the year and a couple of hours on the kids birthdays.  There would be times he’d get a call during a birthday party or family event and we it was just fine that he would run off.  But for at least a couple of hours on the kids bdays it was a priority for him to be here.  Same with date nights.  If it came down to my having to set some law down then it meant we REALLY needed time and I just explained it to him that way.

Career now is a different story because we don’t have staff that are “on call” ever.  It would have to be something catastrophic for him to HAVE to go in.  General alarms go out and if he’s available he’ll go.  We’ve only been mandatoried a couple of times and while annoying it didn’t happen on a day that couldn’t be worked around.  If OT goes out he’s pretty good about asking if we have anything major going on before taking it.  Again, not usually anything that can’t be moved around and I can always have a typical date on the next night.  If there are tickets to somewhere then he would have already turned it down.

While it is normal to have some disagreements about it I’d definitely look to yourself and see why it is bothering you so much that it’s causing major arguments.  If it’s something that is going to happen often in his department then you’ll need some fall-backs for times that plans change.  If a date gets dropped then consider it bubble bath night.  Set up some kind of treat that you normally wouldn’t do as it’s replacement.  That may help with the disappointment.

How do you other wives cope with a disappointing cancellation because of work?

An Unwelcome Fight: The Health Risks of Firefighters

Thank you to Taylor Dardan for approaching me with an article about health issues firefighters face.  I appreciate the fact that he has included links for more information.

An Unwelcome Fight: The Health Risks of Firefighters

by Taylor Dardan

Firefighters take part in one of the most dangerous and stressful careers imaginable. Their ability to regularly put their lives on the line everyday goes hand in hand with the risks that other first responders must deal with. Firefighters also deal with many risks outside of just burning buildings. For years now, firefighters have dealt with health and medical issues directly related to the job.

Cardiovascular problems

Firefighters are in high stress situations all the time. In these situations, the high amounts of stress can definitely lead to an effected immune system and possibly bringing forward major health risks. The heart and the cardiovascular region have remained concerns for firefighters for years now. Hypertension has become a major issue and without any type of treatment, it could bring forth cases of stroke, aneurysm, and heart attack. The smoke of the burning buildings also present a health risks because it can interrupt the process of carrying oxygen properly throughout the body. Because of these risks, cardiac arrest remains the largest cause of death in firefighters.

Respiratory issues

Smoke can play a large effect in the health and safety of a firefighter. Many who have inhaled smoke and dust regularly have experienced lung and heart problems, as well as running the risk of developing both bronchitis and lung infection. Many firefighters are forced to use steroid inhalers to alleviate short term respiratory issues, but more research is needed to figure out the long term effects of dust and smoke inhalation.

Asbestos exposure

Mesothelioma is a type of cancer in the lung and abdomen linings that is related to asbestos exposure. Asbestos was once a common building material in many older structures. They are of little danger when left intact, but in the case of fires, these materials become a major problem. Firefighters and other first responders that go into burning buildings run the chance of being exposed to these damaged materials. Asbestos exposure is also known to happen to firefighters outside of the burning buildings, when they remove their gear to close to the premises.

The health problems that many first responders and firefighters are in risk of have gotten more media attention throughout the last decade because of 9/11. Some of the first responders in ground zero have been at risk of health problems for the past ten years that are directly related to their heroism on 9/11. While support and attention has increased for these heroes, it’s important to remember that all firefighters and first responders are risking their lives every day, both in and out of burning buildings.

Taylor Dardan is an EMS/First Responders healthy and safety advocate. He is very passionate about making sure that all firefighters and other first responders are aware of the sometimes hidden dangers inherent in their work

Engaged and Worried

It’s Q & A time again. I received an email from a woman that has become almost terrified since the engagement. I know we can come up with a lot of tips to help her out so let’s start brainstorming!

Q: hi :) so i just got engaged to my firefighter just over a month ago and i am almost terrified of the rest of my life, i know that sounds awful but thats how im feeling. we’ve been together for over 3 years and have lived together for about 1 year so i understand all the hardships. although i absolutly adore and love my firefighter and couldnt dream of a world where i wasnt with him and i no doubt want to spend the rest of my life with him, it just scares the hell out of me to think about having ownership to these stresses, plus future kids, for the rest of my life. i would never ever ever ever ever EVER ask him to quit but these fears stress me out soooo much, and i feel like im starting arguments for no reason and they keep clouding my mind to where its all i think about and i find myself doubting my strength and ability to do this. please, if you have any advice for me, i would be so thankful

A: Being scared is normal. No one wants to think of their loved one’s passing. However, by simply loving a person we are at risk of a devastating loss. Dangerous job or not, we are surrounded by situations that can take our loved one’s from us at any time.

Before the engagement were you dealing ok with his job? If so, then you must really sit down and look at why things flipped so much for you. Some things to ask yourself:

  • What am I most worried about?
  • Have I told him my fears?
  • Do you resent his job? Are you a part of that side of his life?

From your email it sounds like even when you are with him this is consuming you.  I know over the many, many years we’ve been together I have picked fights. It’s a coping mechanism. Kind of like making him prove he loves you.  It’s not a healthy choice by any means, but you have to be aware when you are doing it to be able to change it. When you find yourself picking a fight, try to stop and figure out what is truly bothering you.

As with any relationship, it’s all about communication.  You have to let him know your fears so you can move past them. Choose your words carefully so as not to sound like you are on the offense.  Talk about how whether your feelings are founded or not, you are worried.  Maybe tell him you want to work past them and are looking for help to do so. Maybe going to the station and getting a tour would help ease some of your fears. Let him explain what tools they use for different situations.

I know when hubby got on the tech rescue team I went through some worry.  I mean the job is dangerous enough, but now you are going to put yourself on another adrenaline team? lol For me, talking about all his training and how they do things really helps.  Sure, I “know” that they are safe, but by getting some of the steps I have a better picture.  When a call goes out and that worry sets in, the actual steps will be in my head instead of my imagination.

Everyone is different in how they deal with things so I hope that you take these as suggestions and know that I am in no way “qualified” to give therapy or advice. I can only pass on things that I’ve used over the years and noticed through looking at my own relationship.

Getting married is a huge step and commitment. Have you looked at the possibility it isn’t even his job that is stressing you out? It could be typical worries of commitment and building your lives together.

Some posts I’ve written with helpful tips:
Getting the Wives Together
A Girlfriends Worry
Some Other Wives Online

Do you have tips for women marrying into the fire life?

Getting the Wives Together

Sometimes it’s hard to remember it’s only been 4 years since being hired on with the department. It’s weird to think of those years and the people we DIDN’T have in our lives before. I know how lucky we are in the close friendships we have and I try hard not to take that for granted.

That said, it’s not all flowers and candy. It’s family and every family has issues. Some are bigger than others, but in the end we are all stuck together so we better work it out. lol A core group of us are super close and this year has been a rough start because the guys had to bid on two different shifts. We can’t get together as much as we’d like because scheduling is a PIA. However, that hasn’t stopped us girls.

Some of the wives got a bunco group started and it’s been a blast and much needed. I know for me I have rarely gotten together with just the girls. It’s usually a couples or group thing and then we girls may filter off and gab without the guys. But this bunco is no-boys-allowed once a month. It’s been fun to meet wives that I don’t even “know” their husbands. We’ve done so much merging, hiring and then shift changes in the last couple of years I can’t keep up with who’s who unless hubby has actually worked a bit with them.

I had a wife contact me that definitely doesn’t have the same thing going on in her department. Sadly, there is a lot of gossiping and backstabbing going on and it’s distressing to the work environment and home life too I’m sure. She’s with a military FD and after a little further discussion she was pretty clear that it’s not the guys at work (thankfully) having an issue getting along, it’s the wives. I didn’t ask how large the department was and I think that will probably have a different affect on the situation. Our department is quite large now so if some of the wives don’t want to get along it’s easier to ignore.

Now for me I have a totally different takes on things. I come into offering advice as a (kinda) secure 38 year old. I’m loud and opinionated and I can’t apologize for it anymore. I am well aware I turn some people off because I am loud, but I can’t possibly get along with everyone in the world. I tried changing and it was miserable and too much work to fight my own personality. lol

My biggest advice in this situation is probably not something that many would want to hear. I’d be really evaluating if these women are who I want to try to bring into my life or if I should be running from them? I have let myself fall into negative female relationships before and all that negative just sucks the happiness from your own life. I found myself complaining all the time and honestly, I didn’t have much I should be complaining about. But those types of women don’t want to hear about things that are good in your life because they want to wallow in their misery and bring you down so they can feel better about their lives. I can’t stand liars and sneaky people so any rumors that would be started by these women I’d have to call them out. So as you can see, at this point in my life, I really wouldn’t be trying to get together with the women of this other department if they were acting that way. However, that is from years of experience and trial and error.

But if it’s a small department and especially since it’s military, you may be living closely to each other. You may not have anyone else to rely on, then let’s brainstorm some ideas for getting the girls together in a positive way.

1. Plan a small get together for crafting or a spa party. If you only have 2-3 women in the department that you talk to frequently, then invite them. Ask them to bring someone else in the department that they have gotten to be friends with. Then work hard to keep the conversation positive in these first couple of meetings while everyone is getting to know each other. If everyone is having fun then more people will want to join in each month.

2. Plan a kids event. Go bowling, skating or even just a BBQ/picnic in the park. Follow the same positive spin as above. It may be hard work at the first few events to stop the negative people from gossiping, but will be worth it when more women are joining each month.

3. If all else fails, then plan a couples dinner party. Tell hubby that the point is to get the girls gabbing off by themselves so you can set a girls event up. You may need his help in this and he can talk to the guys about it as well so you can recruit their help.

One other piece of advice is the fact that many guys don’t want to hang out with others from the department. They want to keep the two lives separate. This will make it more difficult for you to get their wives involved in anything because they may feel the same way. Just be aware that they may never join in on a girls event. Some of the women also don’t want to be a part of their husbands work life and you’ll never get them there either. Just put out the offer nicely and let them know when events are going to happen that you’d love group at. Don’t get your feelings hurt if they don’t show up.

Do you get together with the wives or girlfriends in the department? Have any suggestions for working through issues and getting all the girls together?

Oh, for the curious…I’m the brunette in the group pic.  Just in case it wasn’t obvious from my blog theme ;)